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New Page

I added a new page at top to act as a general forum to discuss all the various bird observations. Quotes or random thoughts can be shared here that don’t fit in anywhere else.

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17 thoughts on “New Page

  1. Good point. I just looked and didn’t see any way off hand. I’ll research it more or find another way to have a general forum sort of page.

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  2. Stone, Is there a way to turn on comments on your bird watching page so they show up in your “recent comments’ section? This announcement page will show new comments but posts on the actual page don’t.

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  3. AmyP asks “Do we get to flip the genders? Is it fair to say that women are also not responsible for men’s emotions, and specifically not for their husband’s emotions?”

    Well, the manosphere answer would be no.

    DS says “Essentially, women are not taught that sex FEELS like a need most of the time for most men. This is how God created men. It’s a gnawing hunger that is low level most of the time, but it can spike up to “OMG I feel like I’m going to die if I don’t get something to eat” type of hunger at times.”

    You see, for a man sex FEELS like a need. Now, we know it really isn’t a need. A person will not die from lack of sex even if it FEELS that way. DS would disagree though because he rationalizes that because men FEEL this urge so strongly that the feeling alone classifies this as a need. He says “No man including me will hold it against you because you don’t know what the male sex drive feels like. The desire to have sex is a biological drive, and I would classify it as a need for most men.”

    And yet, when women have wildly swinging emotions due to their cycle, it’s not her husbands problem to fix. She shouldn’t need her husband to help her with them. He says, “But you can’t “fix” a woman’s emotions. They just are, especially at different periods in time (e.g. her cycle).” So the Christo-Mano solution is that a wife is responsible for fixing her husbands biological urges because he FEELS it so strongly as a need but if a wife FEELS so strongly that perhaps she is lonely in her marriage or she’s feeling particularly bitchy because her period is about to start etc, it’s not her husband’s problem. It’s up to her to take care of her own heart and suck it up buttercup….and this emotional neglect had better not drive her to frivorce her husband or into the arms of a man who makes her feel like she matters. She’s responsible for how she feels. And yet, if the man doesn’t get the amount of sex he FEELS he needs, it’s perfectly understandable that he would turn to porn or have an affair. His wife’s neglect in this area, is her part of the sin too. However, a husband has no responsibility in his wife’s feelings of unhappiness and has no sin in her decision leave the marriage.

    DS says, “In particular, churchianity tries to make a woman’s emotions and unhappiness as an unforgivable sin. “Playing games with women” and “playing with a woman’s emotions” are pretty much stolen feminist phrases that churchianity adapts to beat Christian men over the head. This ultimately gets warped into some weird theology where the man is supposed to guard a woman’s heart. In reality, the heart is the responsibility of each person.”

    Should wives say….. “In particular, the manosphere tries to make a man’s emotional unhappiness about his FELT sexual needs is an unforgivable sin. “Playing manipulation games with men” and “weaponizing a man’s need for sex” are phrases the manosphere uses to beat Christian women over the head. This ultimately gets warped into some weird theology where the woman is supposed to guard her husband’s penis. In reality, the penis is the responsibility of each man.”

    DS says, “Sometimes she needs to be held. Sometimes she needs time to get over it by herself. Sometimes she needs to vent. In most cases, it’s not even about you. Even if it is about you, she still needs to deal with it herself without you trying to fix them.” (Funny how he waxes poetic about oneness when it comes to her submission to him but, meh, when it’s just her emotions “she needs to deal with it herself.”)

    I guess in response to a husband’s FELT need for sex, wives should say, “Sometimes he needs to be held. Sometimes he needs time to get over it by himself. Sometimes he needs to vent. In most cases, it’s not even about you. Even if it is about you, he still needs to deal with it himself without you trying to fix him.’

    DS says “This is the importance of understanding the end goal as it relates to the process. To reiterate, the goal is not to make a woman happy, which is a very easy trap to fall into. The goal is stated in Ephesians 5 and can be summarized as sanctification in Christ and oneness. Stand firm on the Truth. Treat emotions not as something to be fixed but with patience and understanding.”

    I guess wives should say, “This is the importance of understanding the end goal as it relates to the process. To reiterate, the goal is not to make a man happy, which is a very easy trap to fall into. The goal is stated in Ephesians 5 and can be summarized as sanctification in Christ and oneness. Stand firm on the Truth. Treat his FELT sexual emotions not as something to be fixed but with patience and understanding.” (There, there dear. You’ll get over it. This feeling will pass Learning control of your sexual urges will help to sanctify you.)

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  4. TPC said:

    “As for DS, he claimed to “personally know” allll about women’s sexual response in his response to seriouslyserving. Whatever he is or isn’t, he’s clearly not sexually continent.”

    To be fair, he said “I am already personally aware because learning about the human body is one of my big interests.”

    So that might be purely academic knowledge.

    But, I have to say that manosphere guys just about never show much knowledge about female sexuality, aside from locker room banalities.

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  5. It’s really sad that the one with 50 partners didn’t see how he’d rendered himself unmarriageable.

    As for DS, he claimed to “personally know” allll about women’s sexual response in his response to seriouslyserving. Whatever he is or isn’t, he’s clearly not sexually continent.

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  6. Come to think of it, why is encouraging fornication welcome in Dalrock’s comment threads while the womenfolk get shooed away or called vile names?

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  7. What is it with Dalrock guys and believing churches are basically free brothels?

    It’s just WEIRD.

    When I was growing up and then a young adult in Protestant churches, people weren’t perfect, but it wasn’t like that.

    And being an experienced Catholic by now, it’s an especially weird belief. You’re doing really good in a Catholic church if you get a “hello” or two after Mass–it’s typically just not a very social environment.

    I can just imagine how picking up girls at a Traditional Latin Mass would go. Or maybe doing pick up in the confession line: “Come here often?”

    Ridiculous.

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  8. Somebody says: “The best thing you observant bros can do is quit giving these faggots any of your money.”

    A Dalrock anon replies: “AND pump and dump the church sluts. Use up all the women and move on to a different church.

    “Let the pastorbator then assuage the egos of the used up 5s and 6s by calling them ‘beautiful, beautiful, beautiful’ three times…”

    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2016/07/02/it-is-far-worse-than-he-suspects/#comments

    JDG demurs.

    Boxer says: “I understand why you guys find anon’s advice crass and off-putting, but it’s strategically effective. By having playas invade the church, the doings of pseudoreligious women (who are already fucking on the downlow) are made manifest to the few serious people who are still being cucked (at least financially) by the preacher. I believe there is generally a positive correlation between the patriarchal holdout and the financial donor, and the more people with good values that see what a cesspool their church has become, the easier it will be for these few good people (who I suspect shoulder a disproportionate burden of supporting the church) to wander away and do something more productive, leaving feminist congregations to collapse under the weight of its own single mom and freeloader population.”

    That’s quite the rationalization hamster they’ve got going there…

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  9. Here’s a possibly interesting jumping off point:

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/06/28/experiences_over_stuff_is_a_tired_and_sexist_idea.html

    It’s about whether or not the stuff vs. experiences dichotomy actually makes sense, and whether the contrast isn’t intended to devalue what women value.

    I definitely believe that the stuff versus experiences dichotomy doesn’t make a lot of sense. Mandolin lessons or practice, for instance, are an experience, but you won’t get very far without owning or renting a mandolin. Ditto kayaking without a kayak, etc.

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