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The Virtual “Cult of True Womanhood”

Here is a theory on why women with similar stories online are often treated vastly different. From “The Way we Never Were” by Stephanie Coontz:

“The more women are defined in terms of an ideal myth, for example, the more possible it is for men to ignore or actively abuse women who do not meet that ideal. Thus in the nineteeth century, the cult of True Womanhood was perfectly compatible with the exploitation of female slaves and factory workers. In the twentieth century, a recurring theme in rape and sexual harassment cases has been the notion that if a woman has ever departed from ideal behavior in any way she has no real “womanhood” to be violated or offended.”

Now I am extrapolating of course and not suggesting that treating women differently online is abuse or harassment, yet I think similar dynamics play out on a much smaller, less serious scale.  Online there is a virtual “cult of true womanhood” and if you slightly go off the narrative of what a true woman is suppose to be or what a red pill woman is suppose to be, either by your background or by disagreeing, then you are no true woman and therefore can be easily dismissed or trashed. The women who succeed in online forums with men are those very careful of always maintaining their true woman game face, whether then actually are or not.

There are exceptions. Not every woman with a seedy background is trashed for not being a true woman. For example, a woman who comes out of nowhere online with a story about how she use to whore around will be met with angry men saying “yet another carousel rider”, “she will never make a good wife”. However, take a woman who has been around for a time (doesn’t have to be for very long, like leelee), have a good reputation among the men for always being in agreement and you can then write posts about being a whore and be granted the “self aware” pass.  She is still a true woman who at least was self aware enough to admit her mistakes.

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5 thoughts on “The Virtual “Cult of True Womanhood”

  1. IB, Yes, there is a song for that “my milkshake brings all the boys to my blog”! And the reason other women don’t post seductive selfies is because well, those women must be post-menopausal grandmothers or just plain. Clearly, if you had the goods you would be showing them off.

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  2. Here’s an ugly little secret, Stone. Those who are popular with the men, are using subtle sexual language to manipulate their affections, gaming them, so to speak. You see this in the seductively posed selfies, the sexual innuendo carefully wrapped in religious language, such as how one must “go deeper, harder, faster into submission…to the Lord.” The moment a woman goes off script, or lays it on too thick, the men attack. Sometimes they attack erotically, will she take my rebuke, submit, and apologize profusely, proving how masterful I am? Or is she just a rebellious feminist?

    At the moment, both Biblical Gender Roles and Tomassi are discussing spanking,their favorite subject of all, dominance and discipline, although both strongly disapprove of such measures, or at least weakly disapprove. Well, I cannot really tell what their thoughts are on the matter, which I suppose is really the whole point.

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  3. Stone,

    That’s a very interesting observation:

    “Now I am extrapolating of course and not suggesting that treating women differently online is abuse or harassment, yet I think similar dynamics play out on a much smaller, less serious scale. Online there is a virtual “cult of true womanhood” and if you slightly go off the narrative of what a true woman is suppose to be or what a red pill woman is suppose to be, either by your background or by disagreeing, then you are no true woman and therefore can be easily dismissed or trashed.”

    It’s actually even more vividly obvious online, because manosphere guys themselves say that only 1% or fewer of women meet their standards of being “real feminine women” (or whatever their preferred phrasing is).

    “There are exceptions. Not every woman with a seedy background is trashed for not being a true woman.”

    Part of that has got to be the illusion of sexual availability that those Red Pill Women create.

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  4. If you are happily married 15+ years, have gained some wisdom by reaching mid-life and disagree with them, then you are brushed off as too old to know anything about the current dating market. Never mind, we usually have teen to early twenty year old children that clue us in to what it’s like in the current culture.

    I don’t claim to be a Titus 2 woman, but if there is one piece of advice for my three daughters or any of their friends that I would pass on, it would be to stay far, far away from any man who claims to be Red Pill or regularly reads the manosphere and agrees with it. Same goes for Red Pill women and submission bloggers and radical feminists. There is a healthy, middle road between these two extremes and that is where I intend to direct them.

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